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		<title>RooK at 02:09, 14 February 2011</title>
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Honestly, honesty isn&amp;#039;t all it&amp;#039;s cracked up to be. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;(In the interests of full disclosure - which should not be even remotely confused with honesty - I didn&amp;#039;t knowingly rip that line off of some emo indie lyric. Furthermore, it should be acknowledged that I realize I covered most of this same material 7 years ago.)&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing is, honesty is a lie. It&amp;#039;s not just any ordinary lie, either; it&amp;#039;s a seductive ideal that lures everybody into occasionally becoming idealogues. The very idea of honesty in any sort of pure form as a plausible element of dialogue is an insidious destroyer of harmonious communication. &lt;br /&gt;
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Consider first that every aspect of a statement can be factually true, and yet still be misleading. &lt;br /&gt;
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Then reflect that our primary means of communication is this thing called language, and know that it is intrinsically limited by the number of symbols it can wield. What&amp;#039;s worse is that most of those symbols are things that we can&amp;#039;t necessarily agree upon the meaning of. Our individual experiences affect our understanding of each of these symbols. &lt;br /&gt;
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And then remember just how terribly inept we all can be at expressing ourselves, regardless of the facts or the limitations of language. &lt;br /&gt;
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How does honesty even have a chance against odds like that? &lt;br /&gt;
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Someone asks you how you are, and you can answer, &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m fine.&amp;quot; Even if you are fine overall, which is probably a 50-50 wager at best, is that really all there is to the answer? Every little twinge and every tiny worry etch designs of dishonesty on the answer. Maybe it&amp;#039;s more honest to obey the desire to not getting into all that assorted crap in the course of a casual greeting. But how is that different than saying &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m fine&amp;quot; even when I am, in fact, quite poignantly not fine? Sometimes I think the most honest answer to &amp;quot;How are you?&amp;quot; is a sneer and a diatribe about how utterly sick I am of having to choke out a formulaic social response designed not at all for dialogue, but is instead merely a verbalization of a pack instinct to sniff each other&amp;#039;s butts and acknowledge each other&amp;#039;s belonging. &lt;br /&gt;
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The dictionary says that honesty is a fairness and straightforwardness of conduct and an adherence to the facts. But that&amp;#039;s not what honesty really means in interpersonal dialogue, is it. When someone prompts you for an honest answer, what they really want is an unabridged response - regardless of how fair you think it might be, or how much you might ramble and elaborate, and there doesn&amp;#039;t have to be a single damn fact in the lot as long as there are opinions. &lt;br /&gt;
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There&amp;#039;s a kind of honesty mythos that shrouds all interpersonal interactions. Did they really mean that? Is there anything they&amp;#039;re not telling me? If the answers are &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; respectively they might be deemed as being honest. Unfortunately, the primary way of determining if somebody really means something is if there&amp;#039;s some way of detecting if they still mean it later. Like they couldn&amp;#039;t really mean it before, and then change their mind. And for most people with an IQ sufficient to tie their shoes, there&amp;#039;s always going to be some things they aren&amp;#039;t telling you. It&amp;#039;s called editing, and it&amp;#039;s done for clarity. &lt;br /&gt;
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The most honesty can claim is that it is not primarily trying to deceive. Deception is also going to claim that it isn&amp;#039;t trying to deceive, so it&amp;#039;s a pretty meaningless claim, really. &lt;br /&gt;
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All honesty can ever really be is a direction of intent on the part of a person expressing something. And the shitty thing is that people can lie to themselves about it.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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